Raemon comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 7 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Raemon 14 January 2011 06:12:58PM *  8 points [-]

Anyways, one post someone made someone made there was kinda interesting: with the Transfiguration rules being as strict as they are, deliberately breaking those rules seems like a pretty broken combat technique if you were to use them to create biological weapon-ish things. Do wizards simply anticipate that and set up appropriate charms for defense, or what? Given how strict the rules are, it's clear that Harry would NOT be the first person to think of that sort of thing.

This chapter was fun. I'd have liked somewhat better foreshadowing in regards to "what exactly is capable of blocking a magic spell?" though.

Comment author: DanielLC 15 January 2011 05:44:27AM 11 points [-]

I've wondered if it would be a good idea to transfigure some antimatter (Or about 50 kg of uranium if you can transfigure that much) if you ever end up near Voldemort and a bunch of death eaters.

Come to think of it, use Imperious to make other people become your suicide bombers.

That reminds me of wondering why nobody ever made an Imperius virus where they just have each person cast it again.

Comment author: drethelin 14 March 2011 09:04:14AM 2 points [-]

As far as antimatter goes, considering how hard it was to partially transfigure, I Imagine it would be impossible to craft something foreign to most people's understanding without a lot of practice, and anyone who tried to practice would explode the first time they succeeded.

I can't recall If there's a canon limitation on Imperius curses, but I imagine they are strictly limited in MORverse simply because if they weren't the entire wizarding world would constantly be suffering from constant control of everyone by everyone.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 January 2011 04:41:36PM 1 point [-]

The Imperius virus is a brilliant idea, although the caster of the curse has to spend at least some mental energy giving directions to the victim, so there might be a limit to how many victims could be chained from the initial casting. A direct line seems to work just fine--there are canonical instances of Imperiused characters going on to place others under the curse--but I think a tree with many branches would not work.

Comment author: Raemon 15 January 2011 04:13:56PM 1 point [-]

Oh god I love your Imperius idea. Although the sense I get is that Imperius is very hard to cast and powerful wizards can resist, so a) it wouldn't necessarily be an effective virus, b) it might be pretty easy to notice and then counter, if you were too obvious about it.

Comment author: Sheaman3773 15 January 2011 04:37:11PM 5 points [-]

Not to mention, if you lost one person, then everyone they infected, and those they infected, ad nauseum, would be released.

You could try to mitigate that by having overlapping vectors of infection, but I'm not sure how someone would react to having multiple Imperiuses cast on them.

Comment author: Raemon 15 January 2011 04:49:05PM 7 points [-]

Granted, the way this was accomplished in the actual story was by Imperiusing people who were poor wizards but politically powerful, to effectively gain control of large swaths of the population with minimal effort. Which is probably a better idea in the first place.

Still, cool concept.

Comment author: benelliott 16 January 2011 11:59:03AM 4 points [-]

I'm surprised Quirrel hasn't mentioned something like that in his arguments against democracy. It's possible that rule by the strong really would be safer for wizards.

Comment author: Raemon 16 January 2011 07:19:24PM 3 points [-]

He actually did make this point to Harry.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 15 January 2011 12:53:01AM 3 points [-]

with the Transfiguration rules being as strict as they are, deliberately breaking those rules seems like a pretty broken combat technique if you were to use them to create biological weapon-ish things. Do wizards simply anticipate that and set up appropriate charms for defense, or what?

I think the main problem is that you'd probably take yourself out too.

Comment author: Manfred 30 January 2011 01:17:59PM 6 points [-]

Bubble-head charm.

Comment author: Raemon 14 January 2011 07:04:56PM 0 points [-]

Was my post moderated? A chunk is gone that I don't recall editing. If so, I'd appreciate at least a notification, let alone explanation why.

Comment author: Pavitra 14 January 2011 10:43:19PM 0 points [-]

Is it possible there was a bug, or that you misremembered? Edit it back in and see if it re-disappears.

Comment author: Raemon 16 January 2011 07:20:04PM 0 points [-]

At this point I think I just deleted a section by accident when I edited, but by now I don't care about it that much.