benelliott comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 7 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: benelliott 18 January 2011 05:39:57PM *  9 points [-]

General rule of fiction. If there are two possibilities, neither of which is confirmed or denied in text, assume the one that makes sense.

Comment author: gwern 18 January 2011 08:29:49PM *  0 points [-]

OK. So to use an earlier Yudkowsky example, what possibility about arbitrage should we assume holds true in canon? That there's some clever witchery which makes it impossible or that Rowling simply made a mistake and didn't think about the economics?

If we assume perfection on the part of the author, doesn't that lead to an odd and desperate kind of rabbinical midrash?

Comment author: TobyBartels 20 January 2011 01:14:32AM 2 points [-]

I assume both: Rowling never thought of it, but if it were brought to her attention (and she considered it worth bothering about), she would probably declare that the Goblins had some clever witchery (or goblinery) that makes it impossible. So I proactively make that assumption for her, while still doubting that she ever thought of it.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 20 January 2011 02:27:53AM 1 point [-]

More plausible explanation if you need a fanboy defense: Nothing in the text ever says the coins are pure gold and silver. They could work just like Muggle money and when people refer to them as silver and gold it isn't any more meaningful than calling US pennies copper.

The fact that coins are stored in large vaults and apparently aren't earning interest does indicate that there are aspects of the system that don't work as the modern muggle system does, but there's not a strong argument that the coins are pure metal.

Comment author: TobyBartels 20 January 2011 02:52:48AM 0 points [-]

Both possibilities (protective spells, not real gold) are suggested at the Wikia.

Comment author: benelliott 18 January 2011 08:46:13PM 1 point [-]

One could assume that wizards never thought of it.

I'll grant that sometimes author's do just not think of things. However, if there is a perfectly good explanation then I see no reason to throw away my enjoyment of the story by ignoring it.

Comment author: gwern 18 January 2011 09:40:14PM *  2 points [-]

Ah, but I don't come to the MoR discussion threads just to enjoy it. That's what reading it is for. I come to the MoR discussion threads to nitpick and tear it apart!