ShardPhoenix comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 7 - Less Wrong

7 Post author: Unnamed 14 January 2011 06:49AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (495)

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: ShardPhoenix 25 January 2011 11:07:36AM *  17 points [-]

Hi Eliezer, one minor issue I have with this (awesome) story is the punctuation. In particular, you often use commas when other punctuation might read better. Here are a few examples from chapter 68:

1.

Hermione wasn't feeling very nice right now, or Good either, there was a hot ball of anger...

Would read better as:

Hermione wasn't feeling very nice right now, or Good either. There was a hot ball of anger...


2.

Hermione began speaking, despite her newfound resolution her voice still stumbled a little with nervousness, as...

Would read better as:

Hermione began speaking. Despite her newfound resolution, her voice still stumbled a little with nervousness as...


3.

"That -" Harry's voice said urgently, she wasn't looking at him but his voice sounded like he had his head turned toward her. "That was...

Would read better as:

"That -" Harry's voice said urgently - she wasn't looking at him but his voice sounded like he had turned toward her - "that was...


I get the impression that you often do this in order to create a sense of rushing/urgency, and it mostly works, but other times it reads awkwardly. It's particularly noticeable at the beginnings of chapters.

Caveat: I'm not a grammarian so I'm not sure if my edits here are actually more correct, but they read better to me.

Comment author: TobyBartels 29 January 2011 02:00:19AM 3 points [-]

I'm no expert, but I'm confident in my own knowledge here; your edits are more correct by the prescriptive standards of English. They also read better to me too, although may I suggest some semicolons sometimes?

Comment author: Manfred 30 January 2011 01:08:14PM 5 points [-]

I agree that semicolons are awesome, and one would probably be the best choice for sentence two.

Comment author: free_rip 31 January 2011 08:13:57AM 0 points [-]

Both colons and semi-colons are known to break the flow of writing. Dashes generally flow better than semi-colons. This is something I've found after writing many pieces (often with lots of semi-colons, which my natural style has a lot of) on a peer review writing-site and having reviewers tell me - 'x sentence doesn't flow well' for basically every sentence with a semi-colon.

They work better in non-fic writing, where the flow can be more formal.

Comment author: syllogism 07 February 2011 11:17:59AM 1 point [-]

A substantial disadvantage of semi-colons is simply that they're rare. If a small but significant portion of your readers don't read them as you intend you're better off finding another way.

It's a pity though, because if I were writing for perfect clones of me, they'd often be the best choice.

Comment author: TobyBartels 08 February 2011 12:24:56AM 1 point [-]

I use semicolons a lot more when writing on Less Wrong (and other places where intelligence is high) than on many other places.