Acrinoe comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 7 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Acrinoe 12 March 2011 01:12:06AM 0 points [-]

Time Turners and the Marauder's Map didn't mix in canon works. Double entry glitch seems likely.

I can't recall, did canon works show Harry in the Marauder's Map despite being under his invisibility cloak? I would assume from dialog in HPMOR that it wouldn't be able to detect him as it's ability to hide is such that he can elude even death's detection.

Comment author: TobyBartels 13 March 2011 10:01:56AM 0 points [-]

Lupin saw Harry & friends on the Map while they were under the Cloak in Book 3.

Comment author: Sheaman3773 13 March 2011 10:02:40PM 0 points [-]

Yes...long before Rowling decided to make Harry's cloak legendary.

I don't have any solid proof of it, but too many things don't match up if you assume that the Potter Cloak was a Deathly Hallow from the beginning, starting with the fact that no one realized that the idea of a functioning heirloom Invisibility Cloak is apparently an oxymoron, and definitely including that Moody's eye (buffed to an insane degree in MoR) and a toy invented by four pranksters in their teens (also buffed in MoR, if to a lesser degree) are able to see where Death may not.

Comment author: TobyBartels 15 March 2011 07:43:08PM *  0 points [-]

Yeah, things don't make much sense in canon, but what do we do about it? Eliezer has been fixing this continuity glitch by going through the things that could beat Harry's cloak and buffing them up, not (as he might have) by denying their powers over the cloak. (I think that there's a slogan in here somewhere, to the effect that only an Epic Item can beat an Epic Item, and Harry's cloak is Epic.) So Moody's eye must be the Eye of Vecna/Vance, and the Marauder's Map must be an invention of the Founders of Hogwarts (only lightly tweaked by the Marauders, assuming that this is the same group as in canon). So it goes right along with what Eliezer's been doing that the Map should see under Harry's cloak. The Four Founders are better than Death at finding people, after all.