Konkvistador comments on Rational Repentance - Less Wrong

36 Post author: Mass_Driver 14 January 2011 09:37AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 16 January 2011 06:30:22AM *  1 point [-]

The same troops in the same town confronted with the same evidence that their presence was unwelcome all continued to blame and kill the locals.

Generally when occupying another country or supporting its government with your troops you only care what the frak the locals think in a very limited, well defined and may I say small sense.

If you have decided that all things considered you want your troops in a location that generally takes into account them not wanting you there. The most one can say to local opposition is "noted".

The theory is that American military presence in Iraq is good for Iraqis because it helps them build democracy, or security, or their economy, or some combination. It's moderately challenging to concede that the theory could be flawed.

Sure some selective application of violence might actually benefit the other, but that is not, nor is it ever, the real reason why anyone does it. This is especially true when one needs to invest non-trivial amounts of resources of effort.

Comment author: katydee 16 January 2011 07:34:47AM *  0 points [-]

This post basically boils down to "MOST PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND EASILY TRICKED, BUT I'M NOT." Probably true, but do you have to be so overt about it?

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Comment author: katydee 18 January 2011 01:39:23AM *  -1 points [-]

The new version does indeed seem better, though the second part of the post seems less clear and perhaps overly general now-- I'm extremely confident that violence is applied in at least some cases primarily to help others.

Comment author: zyxwvutsr 16 January 2011 02:43:02PM *  -2 points [-]

"...a occupying force cares a little bit less than one might first assume"

I don't mean to be overly critical of your imprecise language, but in this context I think it is important to note that a "force" does not care at all. More to the point, a military force comprises individuals who hold a whole range of opinions and who may act in ways that are contrary to those opinions.