Eugine_Nier comments on Trying to hide bad signaling? To the Dark Side, lead you it will. - Less Wrong

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Comment author: nazgulnarsil 16 January 2011 01:57:11PM 2 points [-]

why would anyone want to avoid employing the dark arts as a general rule?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 18 January 2011 02:36:23AM 1 point [-]

Are you sure the beliefs you're using dark arts to promote are correct? If a belief you're promoting turns out to be wrong, it'll be nearly impossible to back paddle. Read this for a more detailed description.

Comment author: wedrifid 18 January 2011 02:48:09AM 1 point [-]

That strikes me more as an excuse to say avoiding the dark arts is the desirable thing to do than an actual reason.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 18 January 2011 05:31:55AM *  -2 points [-]

As Eliezer writes here

If natural selection, which doesn't care at all about the welfare of unrelated strangers, still manages to give you a sense of ethical unease on account of transgressive plans not always going as planned - then how much more reluctant should you be to rob banks for a good cause, if you aspire to actually help and protect others?

but seriously read the whole article.

Comment author: wedrifid 18 January 2011 07:40:24AM 0 points [-]

Full understanding (and frequent implementation of) of the concept of ethical inhibition does not lead me to accept naive signalling beliefs indiscriminately.

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