Desrtopa comments on Theists are wrong; is theism? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Desrtopa 20 January 2011 01:17:59AM 15 points [-]

I don't think the implications of accepting the simulation argument on one's worldview are that similar to believing in a supernatural omniscient creator of the universe and arbiter of morality. Absent a ready label for "one who accepts the simulation argument in a naturalistic framework," it's probably more convenient for such people to simply identify as "atheist." Conflating simulationism with theism is only liable to lead to confusion.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 20 January 2011 02:08:36AM 0 points [-]

Voted up and agreed; I often forget that Less Wrong is rightly conscientious about keeping inferential distances imposed by terminological suboptimality to a minimum.

Comment author: Miller 20 January 2011 02:33:50AM 9 points [-]

Conflating simulationism with theism is only liable to lead to confusion.

This observation dissolves your post. If you agree with it then repent properly, o' sinner.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 20 January 2011 02:37:05AM 1 point [-]

It doesn't really dissolve what I was actually trying to get at with my post, though; it just means I didn't do a good job at explaining what I was getting at. How do rationalists repent? I have karma to burn...

Comment author: Miller 20 January 2011 02:53:55AM 1 point [-]

How do rationalists repent? I have karma to burn...

I'd say they repent by updating their beliefs, and cleaning up the debris left by their old ones. This is rather similar for rationalists and non-rationalists alike really. Kind of like apologizing for stealing the candy from the drugstore and promising to pay it back..

Comment author: Will_Newsome 20 January 2011 03:08:26AM 0 points [-]

Hm, that's not a particularly natural fit here... the only beliefs I'd be updating are beliefs about what styles of communication should be normative. Still, it's my style to treat ontological disagreement as a big deal, so I'll update accordingly.