Vaniver comments on Theists are wrong; is theism? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vaniver 20 January 2011 06:32:11PM 0 points [-]

Does naturalism vs. supernaturalism strike you as controversial? If not, what question is left?

I personally use "naturalist" to describe myself instead of "atheist" or "agnostic" because I believe it captures my beliefs much more strongly- I don't have certainty there is no omnipotent entity, and I am more committed than just shrugging my shoulders. Supernaturalism is right out, and most varieties of naturalistic theism don't hold water.

Comment author: Perplexed 23 January 2011 10:26:47PM 2 points [-]

I personally use "naturalist" to describe myself instead of "atheist" or "agnostic"

According to Wikipedia, a naturalist is usually understood to be something different than a proponent of naturalism. Common usage tends to be more confused about the distinction between a naturalist and a naturist.

Comment author: DSimon 23 January 2011 09:37:05PM 0 points [-]

I've run into problems with "naturalist" with people thinking that it means I support organic farming, or alternative medicine, or similar things that tend to get marketed with the adjective "natural".

I've had better luck with "materialist", though that also has some pop-culture implications that I'm not trying to express.

Comment author: ata 23 January 2011 09:42:05PM *  2 points [-]

Yeah, I avoid "materialist" for that reason. I usually go with "physicalist" for that sort of thing (or "reductionist" if I'm talking to someone who I think won't immediately misinterpret it).

Comment author: DSimon 26 January 2011 01:15:20PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, "physicalist" is good, I may have to start using that.