PhilGoetz comments on Theists are wrong; is theism? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 02 September 2013 03:53:35PM 0 points [-]

I don't mean that it has to do with which universe we are in. A lot of people believe, for reasons which have never been clear to me, that if a God created the universe, then that God's opinions have special moral status. I was presuming that that God does not have special moral status if it had been created by another God, or through evolution. But I don't know what Christians would say. Possibly they would refuse to consider the scenario.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 September 2013 07:28:53PM *  1 point [-]

if a God created the universe, then that God's opinions have special moral status

Think about it from a slightly different perspective: the claim is that the universe has morality baked into it -- God created such a universe that moral laws are the same as laws of physics. In other words, the claim is that morality is objective and is embedded in reality. It's not an "opinion" at all.

God does not have special moral status if it had been created by another God, or through evolution

In Christainity (or Judaism, or Islam) God cannot have been created (by somebody else of through evolution). In theology that's one of the biggest differences between God and the world -- one is uncreated and one is created.

Comment author: lukstafi 03 September 2013 07:07:32PM *  1 point [-]

If God created the universe, then that's some evidence that He knows a lot. Not overwhelming evidence, since some models of creation might not require of the creator to know much.

Comment author: shminux 03 September 2013 07:17:23PM *  -1 points [-]

But I don't know what Christians would say. Possibly they would refuse to consider the scenario.

They should refuse. Asking wrong questions has been a temptation by the Devil since the times of the original sin. A good Christian should know when to stop.