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156 Post author: lukeprog 05 February 2011 06:49PM

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Comment author: andrewk 21 July 2011 01:07:25AM 1 point [-]

Interesting discussion and well put. It would be relevant here to mention though that one of the commonest tie ins between impulsivity and procrastination is ADHD. It is something that is well worth considering when anyone is faced with industrial strength procrastination & impulsivity problems - as it is usually missed in Adults. Just as modafinil can be helpful- so can the psychostimulants. They are also much older, better understood drugs with a very clearly understood safety profile.

Equally it is worth noticing on the "value " end of the equation- that sometimes we procrastinate because we are subconsciously aware that what we are proposing to do is not the most important thing we could/should be doing.

Comment author: wedrifid 30 August 2011 01:15:24AM 1 point [-]

They are also much older, better understood drugs with a very clearly understood safety profile.

Roughly speaking they are better understood to be worse than modafinil.

Comment author: Procrastinus 29 August 2011 08:35:36PM 1 point [-]

Now we are talking. Big debate over this one in key journals like Science. Here's the scoop n NZT-48 and other "success pills." Most would take it.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-procrastination-equation/201107/better-living-through-chemistry-the-success-pill-0

Comment author: lukeprog 30 August 2011 04:42:29AM *  6 points [-]

Nice little article.

Comment author: Yvain 02 September 2011 05:25:11PM 10 points [-]

This explains a lot.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 August 2011 05:27:48AM 0 points [-]

How long have you kept it up?

Comment author: lukeprog 30 August 2011 05:33:14AM 0 points [-]

About a month, I think.

Comment author: gwern 02 September 2011 07:39:44PM *  1 point [-]

You've been using 200mg of modafinil every other day for a full month? I agree with yvain that that explains a lot, but I'm also a little amazed. I would have expected tolerance. But you mention substantial intellectual penalties, which isn't what I saw with Dual N-Back during my irregular uses of armodafinil, so maybe tolerance is just slowly catching up with you.

Comment author: gwern 28 October 2011 01:00:27AM 2 points [-]

And of course, I should write down what my expectations are: http://predictionbook.com/predictions/4051

Comment author: wedrifid 30 August 2011 02:40:38AM 2 points [-]

An article saying students use modafinil and ritalin that also mentions a movie.

You had me excited thinking there was an actual research drug that I could experiment with!

Comment author: gwern 30 August 2011 04:18:17AM 1 point [-]

I actually looked it up before reading the article - my thought process being, 'a nootropic I haven't heard of? And wait, isn't that an AIDS drug - I know I've heard the name before...' I was more than a little disappointed. (The article wasn't too great either; some of the usual muddled intuitions and minimal information. The New Yorker did a better article, for example.)

Comment author: Procrastinus 07 January 2012 02:56:25AM *  0 points [-]

Here's the research it cites along with a few hyperlinks to other articles. Did you read it?

Mellers, B. A. (2000). Choice and the relative pleasure of consequences. Psychological Bulletin, 126, 910-924. Ghahremani, D. G., Tabibnia, G., Monterosso, J., Hellemann, G., Poldrack, R., & London, E. D. (2011). Effect of modafinil on learning and task-related brain activity in methamphetamine-dependent and healthy individuals. Neuropsychopharmacology, 36(5), 950-959. Repantis D., Schlattmann P., Laisney O., & Heuser I. (2010). Modafinil and methylphenidate for neuroenhancement in healthy individuals: A systematic review. Pharmacol Res, 62(3), 187-206.

Comment author: wedrifid 07 January 2012 03:59:53AM *  0 points [-]

Here's the research it cites along with a few hyperlinks to other articles. Did you read it?

I'm familiar with the drugs cited. As he said, you had wedrifid_2011 excited thinking there was an actual research drug - NZT-48 about which a scoop was to be given.