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Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Hugo Awards - HP:MoR - Less Wrong

51 Post author: Eneasz 21 January 2011 07:06PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 January 2011 12:20:50AM 9 points [-]

I'd planned to try and get HPMOR nominated for Best Novel in the 2011 awards (which will be awarded in 2012). I'm not sure if my personally being nominated for Best Fan Writer makes the work ineligible, or if it would be considered bad sport to try twice.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 22 January 2011 01:01:00AM 9 points [-]

The same names keep coming up.

I don't know whether Best Fan Writer has ever been given for fiction, but I think that's just habit.

Comment author: Desrtopa 22 January 2011 03:00:13AM 8 points [-]

Does this mean that you expect HPMOR to be completed some time in 2011?

Comment author: orthonormal 22 January 2011 06:33:58AM 4 points [-]

I'd planned

Past tense. I hope you didn't fall prey to the planning fallacy...

Comment author: Airedale 22 January 2011 03:22:59PM *  3 points [-]

I am not an IP lawyer, and this is not legal advice, but isn’t there a risk that successfully placing HPMOR on the Hugo ballot for best novel could attract legal attention from JK Rowling and Co? They previously sued the HP Lexicon when it achieved a higher profile (although that situation included the factor of professional publication and compensation, which is not present here), so they’ve already shown that they’re not adverse to lawsuits in the right instance.

Comment author: HonoreDB 22 January 2011 03:45:33PM 5 points [-]

Shouldn't be a problem, so long as it doesn't get printed, raise money, or devolve into erotica.

Comment author: Airedale 22 January 2011 04:00:03PM *  9 points [-]

Fair point, but that's no guarantee that something as high profile as a Hugo award nomination wouldn't raise flags with the legal team.

Edited to add: Having seen the cost and disruption of litigation from the lawyer's side, I may be more cautious than typical on such matters. But as the article states, JKR still holds the copyright, and even if statements like that in the paper could be used to argue for a safe harbor, I don't think that's a slam dunk response that would automatically get one out of the lawsuit with a minimal expenditure in time and money. Plus ,something like being nominated for a Hugo for Best Novel may still be non-commercial activity (there's no monetary prize), but it's getting closer to the line. [This is still not legal advice.]

Comment author: JoshuaZ 23 January 2011 01:05:14AM 13 points [-]

Shouldn't be a problem, so long as it doesn't get printed, raise money, or devolve into erotica.

So Harry and Hermione working together to rationally optimize sex would be a bad idea then? There goes my idea for a second degree fanfic.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 23 January 2011 06:57:41PM 2 points [-]

You could still put "Hugo-winning author" on future books whether you got Best Fan Writer or Best Novel - and you have a higher probability of getting Best Fan Writer. Remember the Hugos are a popularity contest.

I think I've seen the same work nominated in separate categories in past years. Not sure. Ask Keith Lynch.