MBlume comments on Just a reminder: Scientists are, technically, people. - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MBlume 21 March 2009 02:54:07AM 4 points [-]

if you're treating "brain in a vat=person" as a reductio, you've either got a lot to learn, or you've got a lot of explaining to do before this crowd's going to take you seriously.

Comment author: scientism 21 March 2009 12:01:22PM 0 points [-]

It's not an empirical fact that a brain-in-a-vat has subjective experience. It's a thought experiment. Thought experiments don't establish empirical facts.

Comment author: AllanCrossman 21 March 2009 12:42:22PM 3 points [-]

"It's not an empirical fact that a brain-in-a-vat has subjective experience."

If we could watch what the BIAV gets up to in its simulated world, we could see it interacting with its simulated environment. This would give us the same level of confidence in its having subjective experience as we have for any normal person.