RichardChappell comments on What is Eliezer Yudkowsky's meta-ethical theory? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RichardChappell 01 February 2011 05:00:54PM 1 point [-]

re: infallibility -- right, the objection is not that you could infallibly know that XYZ is right. Rather, the problem is that you could infallibly know that your fundamental values are right (though you might not know what your fundamental values are).

Comment author: Kutta 02 February 2011 11:31:48AM *  3 points [-]

Rephrased, this knowledge is just the notion that you instantiate some computation instead of not doing (or being) anything. This way, my confidence in its truth is very high, although of course not 1.

Comment author: RichardChappell 02 February 2011 11:21:52PM 3 points [-]

We know we instantiate some computation. But it's a pre-theoretic datum that we don't know that our fundamental values are right. So EY's theory misdescribes the concept of rightness.

(This is basically a variation on Moore's Open Question Argument.)

Comment author: cousin_it 03 February 2011 12:16:36PM *  4 points [-]

are right

Huh?

I'd be okay with a strong AI that correctly followed my values, regardless of whether they're "right" by any other criterion.

If you think you wouldn't be okay with such an AI, I suspect the most likely explanation is that you're confused about the concept of "your values". Namely, if you yearn to discover some simple external formula like the categorical imperative and then enact the outcomes prescribed by that formula, then that's just another fact about your personal makeup that has to be taken into account by the AI.

And if you agree that you would be okay with such an AI, that means Eliezer's metaethics is adequate for its stated goal (creating friendly AI), whatever other theoretical drawbacks it might have.