benelliott comments on Rationality Quotes: February 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: benelliott 01 February 2011 08:28:48PM 13 points [-]

Admitting error clears the score and proves you wiser than before.

--Arthur Guiterman

Comment author: jimrandomh 02 February 2011 04:06:04AM 11 points [-]

Will_Newsome pointed out the caveat that it's only good to admit errors when actually in error. I'd add a second caveat, which is that most of the benefit from admitting an error is in the lessons learnt by retracing steps and finding where they went wrong. Each error has a specific cause - a doubt not investigated, a piece of evidence given too much or too little weight, or a bias triggered. I try to make myself stronger by identifying those causes, concretely envisioning what I should have done differently, and thinking of the reference classes where the same mistake might happen in the future.

Comment author: Pavitra 02 February 2011 07:25:42PM *  5 points [-]

The wording actually given in this quote avoids the problems discussed by Will_Newsome and jimrandomh: admitting error clears the score, resets it to zero. If you were wrong, this wipes out your negative score, for a net win; if you were right, it wipes out your positive score, setting you back.

Comment author: benelliott 03 February 2011 07:55:48PM 2 points [-]

if you were wrong, it wipes out your positive score, setting you back.

I think you meant to say right instead of wrong in this bit.

Comment author: Pavitra 05 February 2011 12:06:37AM 0 points [-]

Fixed.

Comment author: false_vacuum 04 February 2011 12:28:40AM 1 point [-]

True, but clearly unintentional.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 02 February 2011 03:30:33AM *  3 points [-]

(Unless you weren't in error. Once you start awarding yourself internal karma for admitting that you were wrong, it becomes much easier to do so even when you weren't actually wrong. Of course, this is sidestepped with empiricism.)