Thomas comments on Rationality Quotes: February 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Thomas 01 February 2011 10:45:33PM 18 points [-]

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a man a fishing rod and he'll sell it for a fish.

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Comment author: Kyre 03 February 2011 04:31:24AM 6 points [-]

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day

Teach a man to fish, feed him for around 15 years until his major fishery collapses into unprofitability.

Comment author: MartinB 02 February 2011 12:51:48AM 7 points [-]

That looks like a description of one problem with support of developing countries.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 02 February 2011 11:33:05AM *  12 points [-]

Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

(Terry Pratchett, I think.)

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 02 February 2011 11:37:34AM 16 points [-]

I saw a creepy hospice volunteer search ad on the street a few days ago. It said something along the lines of "They will be grateful to you for the rest of their lives." Like an inappropriate joke.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 02 February 2011 11:40:59AM 6 points [-]

That's... disturbing, but also weirdly compelling.

Comment author: Alicorn 02 February 2011 12:40:49PM 10 points [-]

I think it's more elegant to say it like this: "Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light a man afire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

Comment author: shokwave 02 February 2011 12:53:22PM *  2 points [-]

In text, yes. I said it aloud a few times and I couldn't tell the two apart easily. Maybe "light a man A fire / light a man ON fire"

Comment author: Alicorn 02 February 2011 01:08:37PM 1 point [-]

I've successfully delivered "a fire"/"afire" aloud, but it's a little tricky to time right.

Comment author: NihilCredo 03 February 2011 07:35:56AM 0 points [-]

A little gesturing will likely help a lot.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 02 February 2011 12:52:49PM 1 point [-]

I find my formulation slightly quicker to parse, but otherwise you're right.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 02 February 2011 11:54:21PM *  0 points [-]

From Jingo, IIRC. Also I think the second line began "But set fire to him..."

Comment author: Snowyowl 05 February 2011 01:43:10AM 0 points [-]

IIRC, he uses this joke several times.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 05 February 2011 02:10:03AM 0 points [-]

Ah, nevermind then.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 13 April 2012 11:03:59AM 0 points [-]

Give a man a fish and he'll be back to pester you tomorrow. Give him a fishing rod and tomorrow you can tell him to piss off.

Unknown source.

But I'm not sure what any of the variants of this have to do with rationality.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 13 April 2012 02:08:59PM 0 points [-]

Well, a lot of instrumental-rationality posts around here are basically about the benefits of devoting effort in the short term to developing techniques for making a class of task easier, rather than devoting effort in the short term to implementing an instance of that class with more difficulty. Also, efficient charity is a recurring theme. Whether either of those things have much to do with rationality is a broader question, but they certainly seem relevant to the quote.