Matt_Simpson comments on Rationality Quotes: February 2011 - Less Wrong

13 Post author: gwern 01 February 2011 05:46PM

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Comment author: Matt_Simpson 03 February 2011 06:02:54AM 3 points [-]

I'm not sure what Popper's motivation for saying that was, but I've read a bit of Heidegger and I felt the same way afterward.

Comment author: NihilCredo 03 February 2011 07:09:04AM 9 points [-]

I once told a university friend of mine, who was majoring in modern philosophy, that Heidegger was the most empty and nonsensical philosopher I had encountered in high school. He blamed this on translation difficulties and my Marxist teacher, and offered to guide me through a selected reading of Sein und Zeit; an offer on which I took him up.

We called it quits (in a friendly manner) after five evenings of heated arguing over whether it was even intellectually permissible to use half of the words Heidegger was using, and I left with the judgment that Heidegger was raping the German language.

Comment author: Jack 04 February 2011 03:17:20AM 1 point [-]

I don't know about raping the German language but your friend is right in that a) Heideggerr, more than maybe any other philosopher ever, is harder to understand in translation and b) a Marxist might have a lot of trouble explaining Heidegger.

He definitely is not an author one should take on by oneself and I definitely can't explain much of anything he's said. I do lean toward the position that he said meaningful, even important things but thats totally based on people whose rationality and intelligence I trust regarding other philosophy telling me so. His obscurity is definitely the cause of a ton of bad philosophy.

Comment author: gwern 04 February 2011 12:40:32AM *  2 points [-]

Here's another Popper quote on Heidegger. No points for guessing how Popper took this (as is clear from the surrounding context):

"'I did not understand a word; but I know: this is philosophy' was the deep conviction of a highly gifted young physicist after he had heard Martin Heidegger speak."

--"The Unknown Xenophanes", The World of Parmenides, Karl Popper