Perplexed comments on Rationality Quotes: February 2011 - Less Wrong

13 Post author: gwern 01 February 2011 05:46PM

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Comment author: Perplexed 03 February 2011 02:18:09PM 11 points [-]

surely quotes from his fiction are kosher.

I'm happy to see gems from HPMOR done up in needlepoint and hung on the metaphorical wall of the parlor. But it still smells like trayf! Consider:

Quirrell avoids the ban on quoting himself by attributing the quotation to Eliezer. And he then avoids the ban on quoting Eliezer by pointing out that Eliezer was quoting Quirrell. This is clever and slippery and rabbinical and all that, but it jumps the shark when you realize that Quirrell is not just Eliezer's HPMOR character, he is also probably his LW sock-puppet!

Comment author: orthonormal 05 February 2011 10:30:59PM 15 points [-]

Quirrell is not just Eliezer's HPMOR character, he is also probably his LW sock-puppet!

Oh, come on. It's obviously been the other way around all along.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 07 February 2011 12:18:20AM 2 points [-]

You simultaneously gave me the lolz and the shivers. Karma for you!

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 05 February 2011 11:41:24PM 0 points [-]

That would violate the One Level Higher Than You principle.

Comment author: Perplexed 06 February 2011 01:07:01AM 3 points [-]

What makes you certain we are not living in a simulation whose computational substrate lives in the HPMOR universe?

Comment author: gwern 03 February 2011 11:25:58PM 6 points [-]

I didn't know there was another antonym to kosher besides nonkosher. Interesting.

Anyway, I don't think Quirrel is Eliezer; if he is, then most of the usual reasons against self-quoting wouldn't apply anyway. (It's not like Eliezer needs more karma or higher profile here.)

Comment author: MartinB 03 February 2011 02:48:24PM 1 point [-]

He is a clever guy. Be carefull!