gwern comments on On Charities and Linear Utility - Less Wrong

13 Post author: Anatoly_Vorobey 04 February 2011 02:13PM

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Comment author: timtyler 06 February 2011 07:00:48PM *  2 points [-]

Phil's:

You shouldn't take it as an axiom that the SIAI is the most-beneficial charity in the world. You imply that anyone who thinks otherwise is irrational.

...was questioning XiXiDu's:

If everyone was to take Landsburg's argument seriously, which would imply that all humans were rational, then everyone would solely donate to the SIAI.

...but it isn't clear that the SIAI is the best charity in the world!!! They are in an interesting space - but maybe they are attacking the problem all wrong, lacking in the required skills, occupying the niche of better players - or failing in other ways.

XiXiDu justified making this highly-dubious claim by saying he was trying to avoid getting down-voted - and so wrote something which made his post "sound more agreeable".

Comment author: gwern 06 February 2011 07:11:16PM *  -1 points [-]

Accepting the logical validity of an argument, and flatly denying its soundness, is not an interesting or worthwhile or even good contribution.

Comment author: timtyler 06 February 2011 07:14:34PM *  0 points [-]

What? Where are you suggesting that someone is doing that?

If you are talking about me and your logical argument, that is just not what was being discussed.

The correctness of the axiom concerning charity quality was what was in dispute from the beginning - not any associated logical reasoning.