Perplexed comments on Convergence Theories of Meta-Ethics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Perplexed 12 February 2011 04:19:23PM 0 points [-]

I don't see how this is responsive. You realize, don't you, that this discussion is proceeding under Nesov's stipulation that moral truth is a priori (like '3 X 3 = 9'). We are operating here under a stance of moral realism and ethical non-naturalism.

If your concept of morality doesn't fit into this framework, this is not the place for you to step in.

Comment author: timtyler 12 February 2011 05:26:38PM *  -1 points [-]

I thought you were talking about human morality. Checking back, that does appear to have been the context of the discussion.

Science has studied that topic, we have more to go on than intuition. An example of morality-as-signalling: Signaling Goodness: Social Rules and Public Choice.

Your idealisation makes signalling seem pointless - since everybody knows everything about the other players. Indeed, I don't really see the point of your model. You are not attempting to model very much of the biology involved. You asked for criticism - and that is an obvious one. Another criticism is that you present a model - but it isn't clear what it is for.

Comment author: Perplexed 12 February 2011 09:32:26PM *  1 point [-]

I thought you were talking about human morality.

I was not.

Checking back, that does appear to have been the context of the discussion.

Check again. Carefully.

You asked for criticism

I did not. I asked a question about Nesov's metaethical position, using that toy theory of ethics as an example. I asked what kinds of grounds might be used to reject the toy theory. (The grounds you suggest don't fit (IMHO) the metaethical stance Nesov had already committed to.)

Was I really so unclear? Please read the wikipedia entry on metaethics and reread the thread before responding, if you wish to respond.

Oh, and when I think back on the number of times you have inserted a comment about signaling into a discussion that seemed to be about something else entirely, I conclude that you really, really want to have a discussion with somebody, anybody on that topic. May I suggest that you produce a top-level posting explaining your ideas.