FAWS comments on post proposal: Attraction and Seduction for Heterosexual Male Rationalists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 February 2011 07:06:02PM 3 points [-]

Additionally religion is a matter of choice and at least somewhat indicative of current rationality while sex/sexual attraction is neither

Being offended by discussions of PUA and/or other politically incorrect topics, is also a matter of choice that is at least somewhat indicative of current rationality.

and there are currently some norms against content that would be offensive to people of certain gender/sexual orientation so changing that would be a change from status quo.

Aside from status quo bias I fail to see how that's relevant.

Comment author: FAWS 06 February 2011 07:20:42PM *  -1 points [-]

Aside from status quo bias I fail to see how that's relevant.

It's a counter-argument against the applicability of analogy to offending religious people defined as acceptable due to being current status quo. If status quo is irrelevant it is irrelevant both ways, if status quo applies it also applies both ways.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 February 2011 07:24:58PM 0 points [-]

It's a counter-argument against analogy to offending religious people defined as acceptable due to being current status quo applying. If status quo is irrelevant it is irrelevant both ways, if status quo applies it also applies both ways.

I never said status quo applied in either case.

Comment author: FAWS 06 February 2011 07:31:27PM *  -1 points [-]

I never said status quo applied in either case.

What was the point of writing this then?

Well, LW is already non-welcoming to a lot of groups people are supposedly trying to reach, e.g., religious people

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 February 2011 07:42:24PM 0 points [-]

My point is that being overly concerned about offending people is not good for rationality in either case.

I don't see how status quo is relevant.

Comment author: FAWS 06 February 2011 07:51:02PM *  0 points [-]

You mentioned the status quo. If you had just asked whether that (the best place for LW to be being in need of determination rather than clear a priori) should equally apply to offending religious people (while taking all relevant differences into account during the analysis) I would have answered: "Yes, of course."

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