lukeprog comments on Applied Rationality: Group Problem Solving Session - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lukeprog 08 February 2011 01:44:52PM *  13 points [-]

How to find scientific data:

  1. Do some research to find out what the two leading entry-level university textbooks are on the subject. To do this, check online course syllabi to see what they're using. Or, just do some searching. After 60 seconds on Google and Amazon, I found these two textbooks on global warming. I dunno if they're the best, but they'll probably do. Be sure to get textbooks and not single-author academic studies, which may be highly skewed toward a particular position that is not mainstream.

  2. Skim the textbooks so that you get a sense for the major concepts of the field and how they relate to each other. I buy a lot of textbooks, but maybe you don't want to spend the money. In that case, you can call around to find what university bookstores have the ones you want in stock, then go there and hang out and read it in the store. Or, buy it online and sell it back. If you keep it in good condition, you sometimes end up spending only $20-$30 on the textbook. If either of these two options are inconvenient, well... that's research, yo.

  3. Now that you know the standard terms involved, Google searches and Google scholar searches will do wonders.

  4. Even better, any textbook worth its salt will give citations for some of the major studies that support its basic claims (they usually mention lots of large meta-analyses, for example).

  5. Make a list of all the papers you want to read. Go to an on-campus library at a major university nearby (I drive 30 minutes to UCLA every couple of weeks). Usually you don't need a library card to sit down at one of their computers and download a bunch of papers (they'll have access to JSTOR, etc. on campus computers) to your flash drive. If they don't allow flash drives, upload the PDFs to your free (or paid) Dropbox account.

  6. But usually, the textbooks themselves will contain a good overview of which debates are relatively solved, and which ones remain open. They will also describe what major questions need to be answered to solve the open questions, and what the evidence currently suggests. Of course, it's important to get the very latest edition of the textbook. Be sure to check The Best Textbooks on Every Subject.

  7. Depending on what you want to learn, you may have to get a more advanced textbook on a narrower subject, but it will probably still help to skim a lower-level textbook to get a handle for the basic concepts involved in the larger field.

  8. Did I mention textbooks?

Comment author: Zachary_Kurtz 09 February 2011 02:28:57AM 2 points [-]

instead of buying textbooks check out library.nu

Largest collection of [illegal, mostly] free textbooks I've seen on the net.

Comment author: ata 09 February 2011 02:40:58AM 1 point [-]

Library Genesis (mirrors: gen.lib.rus.ec, free-books.dontexist.com) is another very large collection, focusing mainly on math/science/tech/engineering textbooks.

Comment author: lukeprog 09 February 2011 02:43:20AM 0 points [-]

ata,

Have you ever found any on these sites that aren't also on library.nu?

Comment author: ata 09 February 2011 02:55:03AM *  1 point [-]

Several, I'm pretty sure, though I don't remember any particular ones off the top of my head.

(I usually check Library Genesis before library.nu these days anyway, as they usually have what I'm looking for and there are slightly fewer trivial inconveniences (no login, one click to download from the search result page instead of four clicks, no password-protected archives).)

Comment author: blogospheroid 12 February 2011 01:36:51PM 0 points [-]

I've downloaded a couple of files from there, but they are all encrypted, and nowhere on the site was it clear as to what was the decryption password.

Comment author: Zachary_Kurtz 15 February 2011 08:21:47PM 1 point [-]

the archive password is listed before each external link in every example I've seen. Usually the password is either ebooksclub.org or library.nu

Comment author: wedrifid 15 February 2011 08:54:09PM 0 points [-]

In that case, you can call around to find what university bookstores have the ones you want in stock, then go there and hang out and read it in the store.

Libraries are good for that too - especially for high end textbooks that usually come shrinkwrapped. In fact, it is what libraries are there for. At universities sometimes the specific department libraries have more copies of a text than the general library - and also tend to have copies that can not be checked out so are always available in the building.

Comment author: lukeprog 16 February 2011 05:26:20AM 0 points [-]

The reason I mentioned university bookstores is because libraries usually do not have the latest edition of any textbooks available.

Comment author: wedrifid 16 February 2011 07:51:24AM 0 points [-]

University libraries do. At least, they do at all of the universities I have attended.

Comment author: lukeprog 16 February 2011 03:50:14PM 0 points [-]

Huh. Well, I hope the libraries I've checked are the exceptions!