patrissimo comments on Fun and Games with Cognitive Biases - Less Wrong

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Comment author: patrissimo 03 March 2011 08:03:47AM 7 points [-]

Feed confirmatory evidence to others, give them tests to run which you know beforehand are confirmatory

This is not a way to take advantage of confirmation bias. Confirmation bias means that others look for confirming evidence for their true theories, and ignore disconfirming evidence. This process is not much affected by you adding extra confirmatory evidence - they can find plenty on their own. Instead, it is a way to fool rational people - for example, Bayesians who update based on evidence will update wrong if fed biased evidence. Which doesn't really fit here.

The way to actually use confirmation bias to convince people of things is to present beliefs you want to transmit to them as evidence for things they already believe. Then confirmation bias will lead them to believe this new evidence without question, because they wish to believe it to confirm their existing beliefs.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 March 2011 03:36:11PM 2 points [-]

Instead, it is a way to fool rational people - for example, Bayesians who update based on evidence will update wrong if fed biased evidence. Which doesn't really fit here.

It should be noted that it is a way to fool Bayesians over whom you have some kind of epistemic advantage. That is, you have to be for some reason better able to provide deceptive data than they are at accounting for your ability or inclination to deceive. That is hard to do without an overwhelming advantage in one of intelligence, power, knowledge or anonymity.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 21 March 2012 03:32:13PM 1 point [-]

Another way to take advantage of confirmation bias is exemplified by horoscopes: offering people predictions that are sufficiently vague that no matter what happens, people can find a way to interpret the prediction as having come true.

Also, someone who wanted to be respected by many people could write semi-nuanced opinion texts that could be plausibly interpreted to favor either side in a debate. In the "best" case, supporters of both sides will read the text and like you for being on their side.

Comment author: David_Gerard 03 March 2011 02:35:54PM -1 points [-]

The way to actually use confirmation bias to convince people of things is to present beliefs you want to transmit to them as evidence for things they already believe. Then confirmation bias will lead them to believe this new evidence without question, because they wish to believe it to confirm their existing beliefs.

Yep. This works pretty well, too. Useful phrases: "As you already know ..." "... and you know all this already" "I haven't told you anything you didn't know already".

Comment author: TheOtherDave 03 March 2011 02:46:03PM *  2 points [-]

Leading questions are good for this too, though they take a bit more care.

That is, if you pick the right questions phrased the right way, then when people answer you can follow up with "Enthusiastic agreement! In other words, $thing-I-wanted-to-convince-you-of. Exactly! Praise, praise, praise! Now I'm going to talk distractingly for a little while so you don't have a chance to examine the identity I'm asserting. Oh look: a monkey!"

Comment author: David_Gerard 04 March 2011 11:56:47AM 2 points [-]

This definitely has to go into the children's picture book My First Machiavelli.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 March 2011 03:28:22PM 0 points [-]

It works well... except with those strange folks who find it obnoxious and are tempted to slap you with "No, damn you! It is evidence against what I believed to be true. I prefer to be contradicted than subverted. Don't try that again!"