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gwern comments on Eliezer Yudkowsky and Michael Vassar at NYU, Thursday March 3rd - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 03 March 2011 04:28:22PM 1 point [-]

I would be extremely surprised if one would not be let in, especially given that there is no mention of any RSVPing or entrance fee.

In fact, I would give it less than 5% that one could show up on time and not be let in; so if you are worried we can make a mutually beneficial bet - I'll give you 20:1 odds that we'll be let in. If I'm right, you lose $5, but get a lecture you might not otherwise have tried to go to; and if I'm wrong, you are consoled for the loss of the lecture with $100.

Comment author: mostlyacoustic 03 March 2011 04:50:19PM 4 points [-]

haha...i like your style, but I live literally two blocks away, so if i go and don't get let in it would be the same distance as walking to the grocery store...no harm, no foul...but how about you give me 50:1 on $100 and I will show up with a shirt that reads "I am literally going to murder Eliezer Yudkowsky and Michael Vassar if you let me into this event" in big bold letters....would you take that bet?

Comment author: thomblake 03 March 2011 06:28:33PM 9 points [-]

Recording the first instance of a downvote being used to mean "I disapprove of your counterfactual shirt".

Comment author: Clippy 03 March 2011 05:47:00PM 1 point [-]

Killing humans is bad, because human life is sacred (in a non-offensive secular sense).

Comment author: gwern 03 March 2011 04:59:26PM 1 point [-]

I wouldn't; I'd give you with that t-shirt somewhere between 20-60% chance of rejection. (I'd need to think about it more before I nailed it down any further.)

Comment author: mostlyacoustic 03 March 2011 05:07:24PM 0 points [-]

I'm just joking around, i wouldn't expect you to take that bet anyway. I should have put a " :) " after "would you take that bet?" I'll be there tonight and I'm sure there will be no problems.

Comment author: gwern 03 March 2011 05:27:31PM 0 points [-]

I'll be there tonight and I'm sure there will be no problems.

Well, now I feel led on:

Do I have to RSVP to attend this event or can I just show up?

ಠ_ಠ

Comment author: mostlyacoustic 03 March 2011 06:30:47PM 0 points [-]

Nope. It was this comment of yours that helped convinced me there would be a good chance there are no problems.

"I would be extremely surprised if one would not be let in, especially given that there is no mention of any RSVPing or entrance fee."

Comment author: TheOtherDave 03 March 2011 05:25:12PM 0 points [-]

I'm curious: do you mean to imply that whoever is in a position to not let you in (assuming for the sake of argument that someone is) ought to consider that shirt evidence that it's dangerous to do so? Or merely that you consider it (somewhat) likely that they will?

The latter I can see, but I'd be interested in your reasons for the former.

Comment author: mostlyacoustic 03 March 2011 06:40:56PM 2 points [-]

And good gravy people. Did you not see my comment about the smiley face. Of course I am joking around. I haven never commented here except to ask a simple question (I usually read overcomingbias more than lesswrong, but I have always wanted to see Eliezer speak) which was graciously answered by gwern. Then I thought I was having a bit of a joke dialogue with him. And I get voted at -2? That's just...well...odd. But no worries.

As far as answering TheOtherDave about the shirt. The person who will decide to let me in or not is probably just an underpaid NYU security guard that could really care less about who attends a speech about the singularity. If he was on a power trip that night, he'd probably not let me in. If he was distracted he probably wouldn't even notice the shirt. But either way, again, I repeat, this was a joke. I am a retired 10 year high frequency statistical trader. I make real bets with my colleagues all the time. I also am quite comfortable and acquainted with making counter bets to people's bets -- especially in a joking matter. You should see some of the stuff that goes on at the trading floor. Obviously I either am not as funny as I think or I need to slather my comments with multiple smiley faces to ensure y'ou all know I am joking. Anyway, like I said, I am looking forward to attending and if anybody wants to talk about this (inane) thread further in person if you attend, let me know! I'd love to meet some of you face to face.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 03 March 2011 09:45:49PM 2 points [-]

Well, I was amused.

Comment author: katydee 19 September 2011 06:23:09PM 0 points [-]

I liked your joke. A lot.