michaelcurzi comments on Rationality Quotes: March 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: michaelcurzi 02 March 2011 10:20:08PM 9 points [-]

Here's a long one:

"When humanity lay grovelling in all men's sight, crushed to the earth under the dead weight of superstition whose grim features loured menacingly upon mortals from the four quarters of the sky, a man of Greece was first to raise mortal eyes in defiance, first to stand erect and brave the challenge. Fables of the gods did not crush him, nor the lightning flash and the growling menace of the sky. Rather, they quickened his manhood, so that he, first of all men, longed to smash the constraining locks of nature's doors. The vital vigour of his mind prevailed. He ventured far out beyond the flaming ramparts of the world and voyaged in mind throughout infinity. Returning victorious, he proclaimed to us what can be and what cannot: how a limit is fixed to the power of everything and an immovable frontier post. Therefore superstition in its turn lies crushed beneath his feet, and we by his triumph are lifted level with the skies."

-Lucretius, On the Nature of the Universe

Comment author: Isaac 03 March 2011 03:28:19PM 6 points [-]

I wasn't sure who this was referring to (I thought it was about Socrates), so I looked it up. It's about Epicurus.

Comment author: michaelcurzi 04 March 2011 10:22:03AM 4 points [-]

Whoa, great call! Didn't know that.

This guy was really not a fan of superstition. In the next paragraph he mentions the case of a girl that the people forced to be sacrificed by her father:

"It was her fate in the very hour of marriage to fall a sinless victim to a sinful rite, slaughtered to her greater grief by a father’s hand, so that a fleet might sail under happy auspices. Such are the heights of wickedness to which men are driven by superstition."

Comment author: NihilCredo 05 March 2011 03:10:45AM 6 points [-]

It is hardly a coincidence that Epicureans (with Lucretius as their most prestigious Latin representative) became the subjects of a massive smear campaign by the early Christian Church.

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 05 March 2011 05:42:33PM 3 points [-]

Religious Jews are apparently not too fond of the Epicureans too. At least, if the origin of the term Apikorus = Epicurus.

Comment author: Costanza 04 March 2011 02:36:17PM 1 point [-]

That's either Iphigenia or just possibly some poor nameless girl who was killed so that a local fishing fleet would have a good catch.

Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 03 March 2011 12:29:55AM 3 points [-]

herefore superstition in its turn lies crushed beneath his feet

Sadly superstition isn't quite dead yet; it's just taken on a different form.