NancyLebovitz comments on Rationality Quotes: March 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: sark 04 March 2011 06:16:07PM *  3 points [-]

They don't really. Or if they do, with very much less urgency than when confronted with the possibility of being eaten by a tiger.

I'm reminded of movies where people in impossibly tough situations stick to impossibly idealistic principles. The producers of the movie want to hoodwink you into thinking they would stand by their luxurious morality even when the going gets tough. When the truth is, their adherence to such absurdly costly principles is precisely to signal that, compared to those who cannot afford their morality, they have it easy.

Pascal's wager was a very detached and abstract theological argument. If Pascal's heart rate did increase from considering the argument, it was from being excited about showing off his clever new argument, than from the sense of urgency the expected utility calculation was supposed to convey, and which he insincerely sold the argument with.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 March 2011 07:56:59PM 2 points [-]

The producers of the movie want to hoodwink you into thinking they would stand by their luxurious morality even when the going gets tough.

I don't think it's the producers trying to hoodwink you. I think the audiences want to identify with people who can afford costly but dramatic morality.

Comment author: sark 04 March 2011 10:38:47PM 1 point [-]

Even losers buy morality. This is OK since they are usually hypocritical enough not to employ it in important Near mode decisions. Costly morality is a true signal, not playing along with the signaling game signals... you are a loser. None of this is conscious of course, the directors weren't deliberately trying to deceive the audience. But what they subconsciously end up doing benefits those who can afford the costly morality more than those who cannot.

Comment author: wedrifid 05 March 2011 12:55:14AM 1 point [-]

Even losers buy morality.

In fact, losers tend to buy it more literally than most.