wedrifid comments on Are You a Paralyzed Subordinate Monkey? - Less Wrong

26 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 March 2011 09:12PM

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Comment author: wedrifid 04 March 2011 11:59:03AM -2 points [-]

Eliezer clearly chose his subject line to sting-- "paralyzed subordinate" is insulting, and "monkey" is lower status than the more accurate "ape".

That' being said, his post wasn't about gender. Your reply was.

My reply was about applying the motivation positively, rather than as an excuse. You appear to be complaining that I expended insufficient effort in ensuring that these insulting labels extended to females as well as males.

Something I missed on the first pass was that "supplicating" is a fairly rare word-- except in a PUA context.

I can understand you associating 'pussy' with PUA style context. At very least "quit being a pussy" is far more likely to be used as an encouraging exhortation in a male locker room than a female locker room. But you are trying now to declare a word that is more properly a religious term to be a PUA term.

Supplication is doing something-- it isn't the sort of paralysis Eliezer was talking about.

Supplication works fine, in some of the cases at least. But now that you mention it if I was to actually use PUA jargon I would say "DLV" - which seems to catch the meaning of the behaviour perfectly. And the proper use "DLV"s is actually a life saving (or nowadays a 'job saving') skill to develop (although seldom useful when applying PUA).