Manfred comments on A Brief Overview of Machine Ethics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: XiXiDu 05 March 2011 09:55:53AM 8 points [-]

...there is surprisingly little interest in (or citing of) the academic literature on some of Less Wrong's central discussion topics.

I think one of the reasons is that the LW/SIAI crowd thinks all other people are below their standards. For example:

I tried - once - going to an interesting-sounding mainstream AI conference that happened to be in my area. I met ordinary research scholars and looked at their posterboards and read some of their papers. I watched their presentations and talked to them at lunch. And they were way below the level of the big names. I mean, they weren't visibly incompetent, they had their various research interests and I'm sure they were doing passable work on them. And I gave up and left before the conference was over, because I kept thinking "What am I even doing here?" (Competent Elites)

More:

I don't mean to bash normal AGI researchers into the ground. They are not evil. They are not ill-intentioned. They are not even dangerous, as individuals. Only the mob of them is dangerous, that can learn from each other's partial successes and accumulate hacks as a community. (Above-Average AI Scientists)

Even more:

I am tempted to say that a doctorate in AI would be negatively useful, but I am not one to hold someone's reckless youth against them - just because you acquired a doctorate in AI doesn't mean you should be permanently disqualified. (So You Want To Be A Seed AI Programmer)

And:

If you haven't read through the MWI sequence, read it. Then try to talk with your smart friends about it. You will soon learn that your smart friends and favorite SF writers are not remotely close to the rationality standards of Less Wrong, and you will no longer think it anywhere near as plausible that their differing opinion is because they know some incredible secret knowledge you don't. (Eliezer_Yudkowsky August 2010 03:57:30PM)

Comment author: Manfred 05 March 2011 11:45:19AM -1 points [-]

Huh, just read So You Want To Be A Seed AI Programmer. Appears to be from 2009. I would recommend http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html as a highly contrasting frame of thought.

Comment author: komponisto 05 March 2011 03:25:12PM 3 points [-]

Huh, just read So You Want To Be A Seed AI Programmer. Appears to be from 2009

It's from much earlier than that (like 2005 or something). That particular wiki isn't the original source.