DavidAgain comments on Positive Thinking - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DavidAgain 10 March 2011 04:55:11PM 1 point [-]

I suppose that depends on whether the 'basic rights' include things like voting and contract, that you might consider distinctively rights of citizens.

To be honest, I never know how to take human rights language. Some people treat it as morally factual that people have certain rights, whether these are upheld and exercised or not. For me, 'rights' has to refer to a sort of social contract. We say that people have the 'right to life' because it makes certain decisions more difficult to take than if we just said you had to do what was best for your citizens in general.

It's very difficult to condemn a country for 'not pursuing policies that evidence suggests maximises the freedom and quality of life of its citizens'. Doing so involves all sorts of sub-arguments and complexities. Whereas saying 'they torture people' at least gives you a clear point of objection, even if the fact and justification are both subject to argument afterwards.

Kudos on the 'I've never fully thought the situation through', btw. Remarkably rare words on the net.