Summerspeaker comments on How to Be Happy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Summerspeaker 20 March 2011 04:36:02PM 3 points [-]

I view unhappiness, like pain, as useful information. If you find your hand over a burner, you turn off the flame rather than reconditioning yourself to enjoy the sensation of scorching flesh. Doing otherwise risks losing the limb entirely. Why should I react differently to oppressive and idiotic social circumstances? I desire external rather than internal change.

As a side, note, this piece reinforces the sort gender ideology and interpersonal hierarchies that contribute to making life unbearable: "Dudes, do this. Girls, do that." It assumes monogamous romantic relationships to be natural, correct, and omnipresent. To the extent that this sort of conformity makes happiness, I want no part in it. Instead I encourage anger and rebellion.

Comment author: ameriver 28 March 2011 07:27:19AM 1 point [-]

Pain is not always useful information.

Once I've burned my hand, turned off the burner, and treated the burns, my pain becomes much less helpful, and much more likely to distract me from whatever I might want to get done over the next few weeks. Particularly if I'm intelligent enough to remember the hand is injured and not re-injure it.

Also, for example, phantom pain from amputated limbs.

Comment author: Cyan 28 March 2011 10:54:26AM 1 point [-]

Lingering pain more-or-less keeps one from overusing an injured body part. (AFAIK phantom pain is entirely dysfunctional.)

Comment author: ameriver 28 March 2011 11:21:18AM 1 point [-]

Agreed. I do think that in some cases (most humans) we could do with a fair bit less of the lingering pain, and that is why I use painkillers when injured and treat my symptoms when ill (generally speaking).

In reference to the original discussion, unhappiness and anger tend to be more like lingering pain than the instant pain of injury. And while these negative emotions are useful, we often do not need the full "dosage" that our brain supplies (of course, the dosage varies widely from person to person)