Vladimir_M comments on Less Wrong NYC: Case Study of a Successful Rationalist Chapter - Less Wrong

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Comment author: clarissethorn 18 March 2011 01:13:15AM 19 points [-]

I'm a little surprised to see the issues of LWers interacting with women reduced to "being careful when discussing explicit awareness of social reality" ... with a link to PUA stuff.

1) PUA stuff is hardly the only example out there of "explicit awareness of social reality".

2) It's quite telling that the implication of the post is that "women don't like explicit awareness of social reality", rather than the (more accurate) "women don't like PUA".

One way to encourage women to participate in rationalist communities might be to make a conscious effort not to portray us as silly, manipulative, fickle, irrational gold-diggers. Some rationalists do a good job of this ... many don't. And PUAs, rationalist and otherwise, are usually bad at this. (Yes, there are exceptions.)

Comment author: nazgulnarsil 18 March 2011 01:53:35AM 17 points [-]

PUA stuff targets the middle of the bell curve. Of course it looks silly to intelligent people.

Comment author: Vladimir_M 19 March 2011 10:21:03PM 12 points [-]

How much do you actually communicate with people who are around the middle of the bell curve? In places like LW, people often have a very skewed perspective about the bottom three quartiles.

Comment author: nazgulnarsil 20 March 2011 02:25:02AM 15 points [-]

My experience is that intelligent people overestimate the abilities of people around the middle.

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/07/stupider-than-you-realize.html

Comment author: Nisan 20 March 2011 02:29:16AM 2 points [-]

Skewed which way?

Comment author: Vladimir_M 20 March 2011 03:09:51AM 8 points [-]

It's skewed in several ways, each of which would be a complex topic in its own right. In this particular context, I have the impression that nazgulnarsil's idea of what the middle of the distribution looks like would correspond more exactly to somewhat higher percentiles.