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Comment author: childofbaud 17 March 2011 11:05:25PM *  2 points [-]

I am choosing to interpret this as meaning that you have chosen to be the hero. I'm so glad!

I don't like the designation of hero, because it implies the rest of the participants are helpless and in need of saving. And if we tell that to people, they might just start believing it--or continue believing it. I think we should stick with organizer.

This is not to detract from the accomplishments of these original organizers. Kudos to them, and to the original post, which is both informative and motivational.

(And by the way, I'm sorry to pick on you lukeprog. You were just extending the metaphor established in the OP. But that continuation was what made me notice. )

Comment author: DavidAgain 17 March 2011 11:11:05PM 3 points [-]

I also found it confusing, because the community has 'heroes' in the sense of much-talked-about role models who are generally admired. One of the odd things about the London meetup I went to was that there were several names being spoken of in mildly reverent tones. I'm not criticising this: it has ups as well as downs. But it's that, not organisers, thatI think of when you say 'heroes'.

Comment author: ciphergoth 24 March 2011 12:45:36PM 1 point [-]

What sort of community wouldn't you expect that of? If we were some sort of martial arts interest group, or an environmentalist group, or pretty much any kind of common interest meetup, wouldn't you expect there to be names that were overall spoken of approvingly?

Comment author: DavidAgain 27 March 2011 11:44:58AM 1 point [-]

As I said, it's not a criticism. I guess the difference is that for some interest groups the people who are looked up to are clearly separate from the community itself. And it's not a question of approving of them in terms of 'don't they do good work', which you might expect in enviromentalists. It's closer to martial arts in that it's looking up to mentor-like figures who are seen as further down the path of rationality. Though the related qualities of intelligence and productivity get attention too.