TheOtherDave comments on Less Wrong Rationality and Mainstream Philosophy - Less Wrong

106 Post author: lukeprog 20 March 2011 08:28PM

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Comment author: lukeprog 21 March 2011 08:04:03PM *  6 points [-]

Anyway. If you and I agree...

Yeah, we don't disagree much on all those points.

I didn't say in my original post that people should run out and start reading mainstream philosophy. If that's what people got from it, then I'll add some clarifications to my original post.

Instead, I said that mainstream philosophy has some useful things to offer, and shouldn't be ignored. Which I think you agree with if you've benefited from the work of Bostrom and Dennett (including, via Drescher) and so on. But maybe you still disagree with it, for reasons that are forthcoming in your response to my other examples of mainstream philosophy contributions useful to Less Wrong.

But yeah, don't let me keep you from your book!

As for predicate logic, I'll have to take your word on that. I'll 'downgrade it' in my list above.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 21 March 2011 08:15:37PM 11 points [-]

If that's what people got from it, then I'll add some clarifications to my original.

FWIW, what I got from your original post was not "LW readers should all go out and start reading mainstream philosophy," but rather "LW is part of a mainstream philosophical lineage, whether its members want to acknowledge that or not."

Comment author: lukeprog 21 March 2011 08:22:15PM 2 points [-]

Thanks for sharing. That too. :)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 March 2011 12:08:11AM 1 point [-]

I'm part of Roger Bacon's lineage too, and not ashamed of it either, but time passes and things improve and then there's not much point in looking back.

Comment author: lukeprog 22 March 2011 12:21:57AM *  15 points [-]

Meh. Historical context can help put things in perspective. You've done that plenty of times in your own posts on Less Wrong. Again, you seem to be holding my post to a different standard of usefulness than your own posts. But like I said, I don't recommend anybody actually read Quine.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 April 2015 05:54:59PM 1 point [-]

Oftentimes you simply can't understand what some theorem or experiment was for without at least knowing about its historical context. Take something as basic as calculus: if you've never heard the slightest thing about classical mechanics, what possible meaning could a derivative, integral, or differential equation have to you?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 02 April 2015 07:25:10PM 0 points [-]

Does human nature improve, too?

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 April 2015 07:38:45PM 0 points [-]

What's "human nature"?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 12 April 2015 06:50:27PM 0 points [-]

Something that probably hasn't changed much over the history of philosophy.