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:) I know the feeling.
My suggestions: 1) find other people as good as you. 2) find activities that are you competing against yourself eg: rock-climbing, martial-arts, running, archery, cycling etc etc...
you can do them with groups of people - but aren't reliant on the skills of other people to have a good time doing it.
Does martial arts, which involves fighting an opponent, really belong on this list?
Yep - I'd say that 80-90% of martial arts involves honing your own craft. You get to try out that practise on somebody else... but it's no way the same thing as "teamwork".
I am notoriously "not a team player" when it comes to sports... and I LOVE martial arts. :)
There are also martial arts that are entirely solitary... for example archery. But they're rarer.
Edit: oh - and I guess I should say, that I consider that the end goal of martial arts is to be a better martial artist. Not to just beat the one guy you happen to be fighting right now.
Thus you are in fact competing against yourself - you are trying to beat your past skill-level... the guy you're currently punching is merely a means to that end. :)
Whether or not you are competing against yourself or others seems independent of whether you are competing by yourself or with others, and so I think you're misapplying the distinctions. Changing the word "against" to "by" clears the confusion and links it back to the original subject more strongly.
Yes, I think that's the important distinction. It's all about whether or not you're cooperating with others to secure the goal, or working by yourself. In all the sports I've described above - you are not cooperating with others to achieve the same goal - except for the more nebulous "have fun" goal :)
The fact that others can be involved while you practice is a secondary matter - that only concerns you if you literally want to be by yourself... which as you say - is not likely to be the case.