Aleksei_Riikonen comments on Verifying Rationality via RationalPoker.com - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Aleksei_Riikonen 28 March 2011 08:43:01PM *  1 point [-]

(EDIT: I am mistaken in what I state in this comment. See comments below for correction.)

Essentially the deciding factor whether an assistant program is allowed is whether the program does the mouse-clicking for you.

Quoting from the Terms of Service of the biggest poker site:

5.6. AUTOMATIC PLAYERS (BOTS). The use of artificial intelligence including, without limitation, "robots" is strictly forbidden in connection with the Service. All actions taken in relation to the Service by a User must be executed personally by players through the user interface accessible by use of the Software.

Comment author: Perplexed 28 March 2011 09:09:01PM 2 points [-]

That was a pretty remarkable example of selective quotation.

Immediately above the paragraph you quoted was a link to this FAQ. Note the long list of software products which they say you are forbidden to use.

Comment author: Aleksei_Riikonen 28 March 2011 09:16:15PM *  1 point [-]

The first long list is about programs that are allowed, btw.

But I guess I should have been been more specific that I was talking in the context of "bot-like" programs, and what I said is completely accurate in such a context.

Of course additionally e.g. programs that show your cards to your friends are forbidden. And utilizing large centralized databases is forbidden. But programs that do such things are not "bot-like".

EDIT: Ok, actually I am wrong. They go further in banning "bot-like" programs than I described here. I knew that the multi-purpose "poker analytics suites" that people like me widely use are allowed, and that real bots are forbidden, but I was mistaken where exactly they draw the line between these types of programs, since I hadn't really looked into such.