PhilGoetz comments on Faith and theory - Less Wrong
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I think you lost me when you assumed "faith" ought to be a meaningful word with a coherent definition.
I think the best definition to give for faith is a practical one: faith is the word people use as a combination semantic stop-sign and applause light when asked why they believe in religion. If someone then goes all philosophical on them and asks them what exactly they mean, they then use whatever plausible explanation seems appropriate.
I've heard faith described as:
I don't think any of these definitions are "the correct definition"; I just think they're different ways that people in different situations and with different degrees of philosophicalness cash out the idea of "I believe in religion and you can't tell me not to and I feel pretty good about it"
As such, I don't believe there's a concept called "faith" which it is necessary to distinguish from theory in the first place.
If you don't distinguish having faith from having a theory, how do you talk to religious people?
I understand the point you're making, though I think you're going too far when you say there isn't a concept called "faith". I should have explained that I'm responding to the use of "faith" in only 2 contexts:
faith as a technical Christian term: What did Jesus and Paul mean by faith? There is a large body of literature on this, and each denomination of Christianity has a pretty good idea what they mean by it.
faith as it is used as an argument against rationality.
Only the fourth and sixth definitions you listed above occur in those contexts.
That doesn't follow from what Yvain said at all. There being no singular thing designated with the words "having faith" doesn't mean those words always designate the same thing as the words "having a theory". In fact, if they did there would be a singular thing they designate, which would directly contradict Yvain's point!