Apprentice comments on Mental Metadata - Less Wrong

28 Post author: Alicorn 30 March 2011 03:07AM

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Comment author: Apprentice 30 March 2011 11:15:46AM 5 points [-]

You make some good points here, Alicorn.

One thing to watch out for: When you find out that your interlocutor has interpreted your question differently than you intended it may be polite/friendly to let her finish speaking before following up with the more specific thing you wanted to know. People (often) enjoy open conversation more than specific interrogation.

I seem to have this problem with my mother-in-law, we don't understand each other very well. A recent conversation went like this.

MIL: So, what sort of girl is this babysitter you've hired?

Me: Oh, she's a lovely sweet country girl, a bit shy. This one time she was... [want to launch into a funny story]

MIL: [interrupts] No, no, I mean - is she a student or does she work somewhere?

Me: [annoyed that I didn't get to tell my story] She's a student.

Comment author: Swimmer963 30 March 2011 12:22:19PM 9 points [-]

Agreed. That seems to exemplify the difference between social interaction for its own sake, and social interaction for the sole purpose of gathering certain information or getting something done. I think the point in my life when I became a good listener (or at least a better listener than before!) is when I started seeing people as versions of me rather than as confusing-but-potentially-useful furniture. And I like to have a chance to tell stories, so I give other people that latitude too, and the stories are usually more interesting than whatever fact I might have specifically wanted to learn.

Comment author: Dorikka 30 March 2011 03:23:19PM 2 points [-]

I think the point in my life when I became a good listener (or at least a better listener than before!) is when I started seeing people as versions of me rather than as confusing-but-potentially-useful furniture.

Upvoted for helpfulness.

Comment author: atucker 04 April 2011 12:04:54AM 1 point [-]

Interesting, I've had the opposite experience.

I used to view other people as versions of me, and projected my opinions and thoughts into them. I would expect people to understand what I was saying and agree that it was reasonable. All deviations were bad. This didn't work particularly well.

I find viewing them as people with equal moral weight, but different personalities and wants works much better.