JoshuaZ comments on Manufacturing prejudice - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 02 April 2011 04:27:50PM 1 point [-]

we hate not having outgroups because they serve so well to help reassure us in our ingroup values.

This hypothesis would explain outgroup/ingroup activity only in contexts where there are associated values. That doesn't fit in the example in question.

Comment author: jake987722 02 April 2011 05:58:45PM 7 points [-]

Sure there are associated values. By implying that a particular out-group is "ugly, smelly, no friends, socially unacceptable, negative, aggressive," etc. etc., you simultaneously imply that your in-group is none of those things. You elevate the in-group by derogating the out-group. Presumably you and your in-group value not having all of those negative traits.

Comment author: David_Gerard 02 April 2011 07:23:31PM *  12 points [-]

No, no. You just have to have two groups. "- And that was quite sufficient."

Comment author: JoshuaZ 03 April 2011 12:30:18AM 3 points [-]

That shows that given an outgroup people will construct narratives about different value systems. That doesn't support Nazgulnarsil's claim that "we hate not having outgroups because they serve so well to help reassure us in our ingroup values" which is about the artificial construction of outgroups, not what happens after there's an outgroup.