GabrielDuquette comments on Rationality Quotes: April 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 04 April 2011 10:49:38PM *  0 points [-]

We ought to identify and empathize with the physical and moral order of the universe, whatever that may be, and we should help others do the same.

--William T. Vollmann

Comment author: khafra 05 April 2011 12:18:46PM 4 points [-]

The 3 downvotes this had when I entered the thread seem rather harsh, considering it could be rephrased as "think like reality." The questionable part is that the universe has a moral order, but a charitable reading of the quote will not demand that it means "a moral order independent of human minds."

Comment author: cousin_it 05 April 2011 09:19:18AM 9 points [-]

moral order of the universe

There's no such thing.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 05 April 2011 11:32:33AM 1 point [-]

moral order of the universe

The moral order is within us.

Comment author: moshez 05 April 2011 12:55:49PM 3 points [-]

And we are within the universe! So that all works out nicely.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 05 April 2011 01:58:10PM 1 point [-]

We're only a small part of it, though. The rest is "the motivationless malice of directed acyclic causal graphs".

Comment author: moshez 05 April 2011 02:04:44PM 3 points [-]

How do you measure "small"? Us humans had a disproprotionate effect on our immediate surroundings, and that effect is going to continue throughout our lightcone if everything goes according to plan.

Comment author: Mycroft65536 05 April 2011 02:41:41PM 8 points [-]

... if everything goes according to plan.

I think you're supposed to laugh evilly there.

Mwahahahaha

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 06 April 2011 01:40:58AM 1 point [-]

We should all agree to say the same words, without too much concern for what they mean?