drethelin comments on The Nature of Self - Less Wrong

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Comment author: drethelin 05 April 2011 04:13:59PM 0 points [-]

I don't see why we can't value continuity of consciousness and still go under anesthesia. Temporary states are extremely different than the permanent state of death

Comment author: XiXiDu 05 April 2011 04:35:44PM 1 point [-]

I don't see why we can't value continuity of consciousness and still go under anesthesia.

We can do that of course. What I tried to fathom with my post was time-consistent self-referencing. We can value our memories, the continuity of experience and even our DNA. But the only reliable marker for agents seems to be a stable utility function. Rational agents with an identical utility function will to some extent converge to exhibit similar behavior and are therefore able to cooperate. We can more consistently identify with our values and goals than with our past and future memories, digitized backups or causal history.

Comment author: David_Gerard 05 April 2011 04:58:10PM *  -1 points [-]

We expect to come back from general anaesthesia. People consider the dangers of being operated on, but don't seem to think of anaesthesia as being one of them.

(That said, general anaesthesia is way less safe than people seem to regard it, which is why anaesthetists are fully-trained doctors who have specialised, rather than just technicians. And why your anaesthetist can turn you away on the morning of your operation just like that if they're at all unsure.)