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Comment author: TheOtherDave 08 April 2011 03:16:52AM 4 points [-]

who is generating interest but who has fairly dismal kharma. Explain.

My tentative explanation is that it's not actually generating as much interest as you suggest.

Rather, there are a small number of people generating a vast number of comments that don't seem to generate any useful progress, and thus don't garner much karma.

Admittedly I'm mostly generalizing from my own experience here... that kind of volume: content ratio is not something I want to see more of (and is, indeed, something I'd like to see less of), and the low karma scores seem consistent with the idea that other people are like me in this respect.

That said, I could be wrong... it may be that lots of other people find that dialog worthwhile, that I'm the exception, and that the karma scores have some other explanation I haven't thought of.

Personally, I don't think the votes are anything people should care about.

To the extent (A) that votes on X's comments/posts reflect other people's desire to have stuff like those comments/posts on this site, and to the extent (B) that X cares about other people's desires, X should care about votes.

Of course, extent A is difficult to determine with confidence, and extent B is a consequence of X's values. For myself, I estimate A to be fairly high, and B is pretty high for me, so I care about votes and I think I should care about them.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 09 April 2011 05:05:15PM 0 points [-]

Rather, there are a small number of people generating a vast number of comments that don't seem to generate any useful progress, and thus don't garner much karma.

I've obtained a delta of about +100 karma in this discussion. So this explanation seems wrong.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 April 2011 06:25:25PM 1 point [-]

Fair enough... if that's coming from a small number of highly-ranked comments, that is indeed evidence that a lot of people are interested in the exchange. (If it's a large number of low-ranked comments, it's equally consistent with a small number of people who endorse your engagement in it.)

Thanks for the counterargument.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 09 April 2011 09:13:15PM 0 points [-]

Fair enough... if that's coming from a small number of highly-ranked comments, that is indeed evidence that a lot of people are interested in the exchange. (If it's a large number of low-ranked comments, it's equally consistent with a small number of people who endorse your engagement in it.)

That seems like an accurate assessment. At present this comment http://lesswrong.com/lw/54u/bayesian_epistemology_vs_popper/3uqx is at +8 and this comment http://lesswrong.com/lw/54u/bayesian_epistemology_vs_popper/3usd is at +13 but the second comment also got linked to in a separate thread. No other comment of mine in that discussion has upvoted to more than 5. That data combined with your remark above suggests that your initial remark was correct.