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Comment author: PhilGoetz 08 April 2011 03:20:26AM *  6 points [-]

I have similar impressions. I think there may also be a difference in time: Contrarian posts and comments will sometimes get voted down very quickly, within a few minutes of being posted, then be voted up over the next few days. It could be that LW conformists are more likely to check the site obsessively, and so most of the first dozen people to see a comment are conformists.

There is a phenomenon on Wikipedia, where some editors spend their days hunched over the keyboard, not trying to make Wikipedia better, but trying to enforce their vision of Wikipedia's social norms, mostly by deleting articles with the zeal of a Spanish Inquisitor and the rules-lawyering of a D&D munchkin. See the user contributions of Realkyhick for an example of this. Note that he has several times deleted an article within minutes of it first appearing, while the author was still writing it. Perhaps there's a similar psychology at work on LW.

Comment author: wedrifid 08 April 2011 03:37:06AM *  4 points [-]

I think there may also be a difference in time: Contrarian posts and comments will sometimes get voted down very quickly, within a few minutes of being posted, then be voted up over the next few days. It could be that LW conformists are more likely to check the site obsessively, and so most of the first dozen people to see a comment are conformists.

I attribute this to disagreement within the immediate discourse. In general whenever a group of a few people are having an argument in a sequence of comments and (at least) one side clearly cares a new comment that refutes the previous one often receives quick downvotes. This is independent of whether the position disagrees with the community at large and depends directly on the 'other side' taking it personally.

I know that some of my highest voted series of comments actually started at below -2. It is only after a day or two that they settled at their stable 'approved of' status. In contrast to your suggestion this would seem to suggest that it takes time for the 'mainstream' tide of opinion on comment value to overwhelm the eddy current of personal dislike.