drethelin comments on Human errors, human values - Less Wrong

32 Post author: PhilGoetz 09 April 2011 02:50AM

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Comment author: drethelin 09 April 2011 03:27:48PM 1 point [-]

I strongly agree with this. Humans should be morally discouraged from making life or death decisions for other humans because of human fallibility. Individuals not only do not know enough in general to make flash decisions correctly about these kind of probabilities, but also do not share enough values to make these decisions. The rules need to say you can't volunteer other people to die for your cause.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 09 April 2011 03:58:34PM 8 points [-]

Humans make life-and-death decisions for other humans every day. The President decides to bomb Libya or enter Darfur to prevent a genocide. The FDA decides to approve or ban a drug. The EPA decides how to weigh deaths from carcinogens produced by industry, vs. jobs. The DOT decides how to weigh travel time vs. travel deaths.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 09 April 2011 04:16:43PM 3 points [-]

Note that those are all decisions which have been off-loaded to large institutions.

People rarely make overt life and death decisions in their private lives.

Comment author: nerzhin 09 April 2011 05:43:12PM 3 points [-]

Overt is the key word.

When you buy a car that's cheaper than a Volvo, or drive over the speed limit, or build a house that cannot withstand a magnitude 9 earthquake, you are making a life and death decision.

Comment author: drethelin 10 April 2011 07:43:07AM 2 points [-]

no. The phrase "life or death decision" does not mean this and this is not how it's used.

Comment author: drethelin 10 April 2011 07:53:33AM 1 point [-]

yes, and this is a series of examples of decisions that almost everyone is discouraged from making themselves. Other examples include a police officer's decision to use lethal force or whether a firefighter goes back into the collapsing building one more time. These are people specifically trained and encouraged to be better at making these judgments, and EVEN then we still prefer the police officer to always take the non-lethal path. The average person is and I think should in general be discouraged from making life or death decisions for other people.