Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on The Sacred Mundane - Less Wrong

42 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 March 2009 09:53AM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 March 2009 11:03:27AM 15 points [-]

It is difficult for anything to be entirely wrong. Stupidity is not reversed intelligence. The question is whether you should drink from the old cup or start over. For this, a few examples of subtle poison really ought to be enough.

Re: Space shuttles: I know that, but they get to me anyway. Apparently the sacredness of space shuttles is not something that this particular truth about them can destroy. Sort of like a baby taking its very first steps and falling over. It's not going anywhere for a while, but so what.

Comment author: Annoyance 25 March 2009 01:40:35PM 2 points [-]

"It is difficult for anything to be entirely wrong."

No, it really isn't. If you also consider those things which don't rise to the level of coherence necessary to be wrong, it's even easier.

Comment author: alvarojabril 25 March 2009 02:00:00PM *  1 point [-]

Excellent second point, Michael, this is essentially what I was getting at below.

Eliezer, are we to assume from your final comment that the "baby steps" you're taking are a means to eliminate the feeling of the sacred from your life? Otherwise I don't get the baby metaphor.

I remember an interesting Slate article about the vagus nerve and the feeling of the sacred. I can't speak to the science behind it, but I think there's an interesting relationship between the notion of the sacred and AnnaSalamon's excellent "Cached Selves" post. Don't we then have a responsibility to actively avoid the feeling of the sacred?

Comment author: arundelo 25 March 2009 03:13:03PM 8 points [-]

I think he meant that a baby's first steps are sacred even though they're not impressive qua steps.

Comment author: timtyler 25 March 2009 03:38:20PM 0 points [-]

More like: religion is a thick soup. Picking out the good bits has its attractions - compared to trying to make your own soup.