AlephNeil comments on The Absolute Self-Selection Assumption - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AlephNeil 11 April 2011 06:51:28PM *  5 points [-]

The shortest description of me is a pair (U, x), where U is a description of my universe and x is a description of where to find me in that universe.

It might not be possible to describe U without making some arbitrary choices concerning "co-ordinates" (and other acts of "gauge-fixing"). And then when they're chosen, we're going to want to 'throw them away' once we've located the observer (since the co-ordinates are not physically meaningful and certainly don't form part of the observer's "mental state".)

So really, it's better to talk about a "centred universe" whose co-ordinates are specially chosen to have the observer in the middle, rather than an uncentered ("objective") universe plus a pointer.

Anyway, I still want to know whether being close to a 'landmark' (like a supermassive black hole) is going to significantly increase one's probability. And whether, if tons of copies of you are made and sent far and wide, you should 'anticipate' waking up close to a landmark.

Comment author: cousin_it 11 April 2011 08:36:10PM *  3 points [-]

Your last paragraph sounds like it could describe gravity if we tweaked it enough :-)

Comment author: paulfchristiano 11 April 2011 08:25:21PM 0 points [-]

Anyway, I still want to know whether being close to a 'landmark' (like a supermassive black hole) is going to significantly increase one's probability. And whether, if tons of copies of you are made and sent far and wide, you should 'anticipate' waking up close to a landmark.

The theory predicts many artifacts of this form. I don't think that landmarks are too significant, because specifying what "supermassive black hole" means is a little complicated, but for very easily specified landmarks it would be the case.