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Comment author: jimrandomh 12 April 2011 02:20:45AM 1 point [-]

If it's really that bad, you should use a mild sedative to force yourself to fall asleep at a consistent time.

Comment author: pdf23ds 12 April 2011 02:24:05AM 1 point [-]

These don't work for me. The details are boring.

Comment author: jimrandomh 12 April 2011 02:56:34AM 1 point [-]

My sleep is seriously disturbed. ... I find it impossible to wake up at a consistent time every day (+/- 8 hours), despite years of trying, which makes it extremely hard to hold down a job, or do dozens of other normal things. There could be a profession that I could make my sleep work with, but I'm still searching for it.

If it's really that bad, you should use a mild sedative to force yourself to fall asleep at a consistent time.

These don't work for me. The details are boring.

The details may be boring, but they matter a great deal. I believe you when you say you tried using sedatives and it didn't work, but there are a lot of different ones to try and a lot of different ways to use them. Which ones have you tried, and in what way(s) were they unsuitable? Have you actually run out of compounds to try, or did you just get discouraged by a few bad results?

Comment author: pdf23ds 12 April 2011 03:15:33AM 3 points [-]

I have tried sedatives, melatonin, melatonin-inducing sleeping aids, traditional sleeping aids, and Ambien (whatever that is). Some have no effect, some put me to sleep but leave me unrested, and some put me to sleep and leave me unrested and incredibly groggy for the rest of the day. Generally speaking, trying to shift your sleep schedule by more than 1-2 hours using sleep aids doesn't work. If your circadian rhythm keeps advancing anyway, the results are just like a normal person trying to go to bed at noon using sleep aids.

a lot of different ways to use them

Can you expand on this?

Comment author: jimrandomh 12 April 2011 12:39:34PM 1 point [-]

a lot of different ways to use them

Can you expand on this?

You can vary the dosage, the timing, and the preconditions (ie use it only when you predict you'll fail to fall asleep otherwise). You can use the same compound with different release profiles. You can mix some combinations with each other (but not all combinations; X and Y being safe individually does not always mean coadministration is safe).

Comment author: jwhendy 12 April 2011 11:36:38AM *  -1 points [-]

Edit: I humbly remove this. As not to simply "run and hide", it was an off-color comment. I had already debated with myself about whether to even post it but thought it might produce at least something humorous to the OP. It's been downvoted and I'm pulling it before many more have to see it.

I apologize.

Edit2: were this to be left up, I could see it getting to -5-10 depending on traffic, so feel free to continue down vote to that point.

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