David_Gerard comments on Build Small Skills in the Right Order - Less Wrong

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Comment author: David_Gerard 18 April 2011 03:11:17PM *  11 points [-]

Sewer-diving could be fun, and instructive! But a note or few about adequate preparation first strikes me as a really good idea. Particularly when the story turns out to be "and then I swallowed this sample of engineered resistant mycobacterium tuberculosis, and I felt great." Hubris is one of the dangers of a little knowledge.

Comment author: Clippy 20 April 2011 07:09:55PM *  2 points [-]

Sewer-diving is, in fact, fun and safe for humans, and your warnings about the dangers are alarmist and excessive.

Scientology classes are also safe.

Comment author: David_Gerard 20 April 2011 07:15:12PM 0 points [-]

Sewer diving is in fact a favourite of urban explorers. And I must admit that trolling Scientology in my dissolute youth was lots of fun :-D

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 20 April 2011 07:11:26PM 6 points [-]

How did you come to the conclusion that this was a good comment to post?

Comment author: Clippy 20 April 2011 07:14:03PM 1 point [-]

How did you come to the conclusion that the parent of the comment containing this sentence was a good comment to post?

Are you attempting to direct me on an endlessly-recurring chain of justification? At some point, reflection must stop and action must be taken, or else you will use up all free energy and entropize just thinking of your next action. Correct reasoning teaches you this very quickly.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 20 April 2011 08:10:46PM 3 points [-]

How did you come to the conclusion that the parent of the comment containing this sentence was a good comment to post?

By heuristic based processing, as with how I do most things. It seems reasonable to assume that the same isn't true of you, though, so I expected a rather more useful answer to my question. (Relevant heuristics include 'if confused, ask for information' and 'alert friend-type people to mistakes so that they can avoid those mistakes in the future'.)

Are you attempting to direct me on an endlessly-recurring chain of justification? At some point, reflection must stop and action must be taken, or else you will use up all free energy and entropize just thinking of your next action. Correct reasoning teaches you this very quickly.

I wasn't, actually. I suspect that whatever system you used to decide to make that post is poorly calibrated, and intended to offer help in debugging it. It's also possible that my model of you is not as accurate as it could be, and that's what needs debugging. In either case, gathering more information is a reasonable early step in the process.

Comment author: Clippy 20 April 2011 08:42:13PM 2 points [-]

By heuristic based processing, as with how I do most things. It seems reasonable to assume that the same isn't true of you, though, so I expected a rather more useful answer to my question. (Relevant heuristics include 'if confused, ask for information' and 'alert friend-type people to mistakes so that they can avoid those mistakes in the future'.)

I also use heuristic reasoning, (governed by the meta-heuristic of correct reasoning), and here I thought that User:David_Gerard was significantly overstating the risks of sewer-diving and Scientology classes for humans. Therefore, I added my "independent component" to the discussion.