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Comment author: fubarobfusco 22 July 2012 07:33:00AM *  0 points [-]

"Most cult converts were children of privilege raised by educated parents in suburban homes. Young, healthy, intelligent, and college educated, they could look forward to solid careers and comfortable incomes. [...] In nearly all respects – economically, socially, psychologically – the typical cult converts tested out normal."

"Stated somewhat more abstractly, the fundamental sociological β€œlaw” of conversion asserts that conversion to religious groups almost never occurs unless the recruit develops stronger attachments to members of the group than to non-members."

This seems to imply that children of privilege raised by educated parents in suburban homes may tend to be deficient of strong attachments; and that economic, social, and psychological definitions of "normal" are not capable of detecting this?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 July 2012 08:20:44AM 0 points [-]

Deficient relative to what?

For example, if some other group G (perhaps children not of privilege not raised by educated parents in suburban homes) has stronger attachments, resulting in members of G having a lower chance of being converted, then we can say they are deficient relative to G. This theory is testable, at least in principle.

OTOH, if no such group G exists, but we want to alter our economic, social, and psychological evaluation such that children we evaluate as normal don't become cult converts, then this sounds more like a matter of how we define the word "normal" than any kind of statement about the world.