shokwave comments on Offense versus harm minimization - Less Wrong

60 Post author: Yvain 16 April 2011 01:06AM

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Comment author: shokwave 16 April 2011 02:18:37PM 2 points [-]

My real-world working theory on utility monsters of the type you describe is basically to keep in mind that some people are more sensitive than others, but if anyone reaches utility monster levels (roughly indicated by whether I think "this is completely absurd"), I flip the sign on their utility function.

Comment author: jimrandomh 16 April 2011 03:02:11PM *  14 points [-]

Excuse me, but I think you should recheck your moral philosophy before you get the chance to act on that. Are you sure that shouldn't be "become indifferent with respect to optimizing their utility function", or perhaps "rescale their utility function to a more reasonable range"? Because according my moral philosophy, explicitly flipping the sign of another agent's utility function and then optimizing is an evil act.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 16 April 2011 02:51:53PM 3 points [-]

My own real-world working theory is that if someone I respect in general expresses a sensitivity that I consider completely absurd, I reduce my level of commitment to my process for evaluating the absurdity of sensitivities.

Comment author: Desrtopa 16 April 2011 02:20:33PM 0 points [-]

So you consider it to be a major source of positive utility to antagonize them?

Comment author: shokwave 16 April 2011 06:52:52PM 2 points [-]

Tongue-in-cheek, yes.