conchis comments on Offense versus harm minimization - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 18 April 2011 12:05:04AM 1 point [-]

I agree that some people do treat as moral failings many practices that, to my mind, are better treated as mistakes.

I also think that some people react to that by defending practices that, to my mind, are better treated as mistakes.

Regarding the supposed biases arising due to gendered language, do you think that they exist to a significant degree in practice?

I'm not sure.

One way I might approach the question is to teach an experimental subject some new words to denote new roles, and then have the subjects select people to fill those roles based on resumes. By manipulating the genderedness of the name used for the role (e.g., "farner," "farness," or "farnist") and the nominal sex of the candidate (e.g., male or female), we could determine what effect an X-gendered term had on the odds of choosing a Y-sexed candidate.

I have no idea if that study has been performed.

So, for example, would I expect English-speakers (on average) selecting a candidate for the role of "farness" to select a female candidate more often than for the role of "farner"?

Yes, I think so. Probably not a huge difference, though. Call it a 65% confidence for a statistically significant difference.

What's your estimate? (Or, if you'd rather operationalize the question differently, go for it.)

Comment author: conchis 18 April 2011 10:58:31PM *  1 point [-]

My understanding of the relevant research* is that it's a fairly consistent finding that masculine generics (a) do cause people to imagine men rather than women, and (b) that this can have negative effects ranging from impaired recall, comprehension, and self-esteem in women, to reducing female job applications. (Some of these negative effects have also been established for men from feminine generics as well, which favours using they/them/their rather than she/her as replacements.)

* There's an overview of some of this here (from p.26).

Comment author: steven0461 18 April 2011 11:47:29PM 2 points [-]

I wonder if they tested whether individuals suffer similar negative effects from plural generics.