Perplexed comments on Friendly to who? - Less Wrong

2 Post author: TimFreeman 16 April 2011 11:43AM

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Comment author: Perplexed 17 April 2011 05:28:49PM 1 point [-]

The rich and powerful won't care for CEV. It pays no attention to their weath.

Not necessarily so. Quoting Eliezer: "A minor, muddled preference of 60% of humanity might be countered by a strong, unmuddled preference of 10% of humanity." So any good Marxist will be able to imagine the rich and powerful getting their way in the computation of CEV just as they get their way today: by inducing muddle in the masses.

The "I don't see how I could reasonably expect anything much better" seems likely to be a failure of the imagination.

And here I was considering it a victory of reason. :)

Comment author: timtyler 17 April 2011 09:30:48PM *  1 point [-]

Quoting Eliezer: "A minor, muddled preference of 60% of humanity might be countered by a strong, unmuddled preference of 10% of humanity." So any good Marxist will be able to imagine the rich and powerful getting their way in the computation of CEV just as they get their way today: by inducing muddle in the masses.

There's little reason for them to bother with such nonsense - if they are building and paying for the thing in the first place.

CEV may be a utilitarian's wet dream - but it will most-likely look like a crapshoot to the millionaires who are actually likely to be building machine intelligence.

Comment author: timtyler 17 April 2011 09:41:54PM *  0 points [-]

The "I don't see how I could reasonably expect anything much better" seems likely to be a failure of the imagination.

And here I was considering it a victory of reason. :)

It seemed as though you were failing to forsee opposition to CEV-like schemes. There are implementation problems too - but even without those, such scenarios do not seem very likely to happen.